What is "the sevenfold Spirit of God"?

"From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder.  Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing.  These are the seven spirits [sevenfold Spirit] of God." ~ Revelation 4:5

A few weeks ago I was reading Revelation when I came across this verse.  It confused me because I always hear about the Trinity, but I never hear about the seven spirits of God.  It was weird because it sounded like something that people could easily misinterpret in order to make Christianity seem polytheistic.  But after some studying, I've come to a new understanding of this verse and of the sevenfold Spirit of God.

I started by going through the Bible and listing a few things that mentioned the number seven:

• seven days - six days of creation and the seventh holy day of rest (Genesis 1:1-2:3)
• seven seals (Revelation 6, 8)
• seven trumpets (Revelation 8-9, 11:15-19)
• seven bowls of God's wrath (Revelation 16)
• Sabbath year (Leviticus 25)
• forgive seventy-seven/seven times seventy times (Matthew 18:21)
• seven angels of the seven churches (Revelation 2-3)
• The number seven is a symbol of perfection.  The sevenfold Spirit shows that God's Holy Spirit is perfect, above all else.
• the seven heads of the beast out of the sea (Revelation 13:1)

When I got to this last verse, a thought occurred to me.

The devil's number is 666, while 777 is considered lucky or holy and is associated with God in biblical times.  Satan always comes second in his battle with God, so each digit of his number must not be higher than or equal to God's number; 666 is the highest number below 777 that does not contain 7, 8, or 9.  For this same reason, the beast out of the sea has seven heads, setting himself up as God, but one head must be eliminated because God will not allow His glory or His name to be taken by another.  But Satan will restore the seventh head so that it seems that he really is God.

After getting back on track, God started to reveal some things to me about the purpose of the sevenfold Spirit.  When I first started thinking about the question of the seven spirits, my first thought was that each spirit represented a particular characteristic of God.  So when I came across Revelation 5:6, things started falling into place with that assumption.

"Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders.  He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth."

This led me back to Revelation 2-3 because it seems that seven angels had been assigned to the seven churches.  In other words, it appeared that the angels had been "sent out into all the earth."  But it wasn't until a friend mentioned Hebrews that the answers started becoming clear.

Bear with me.  My thought process through this whole journey was really scattered.  When I went to Hebrews, I remembered the verse that talked about the "spirit of sonship."  Somehow that made me think of 2 Timothy 1:7 ("For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love, and of self-discipline"), and from there, I started thinking of different instances where the Bible mentions a spirit of something, and then I expanded to other verses describing certain emotions or attributes that come from God.  For example, 1 Corinthians 13:13: "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love.  But the greatest of these is love."

Finally, after throwing around different qualities of the Spirit of God, I narrowed the list down to these seven, which seem to match up with the seven churches in Revelation 2-3:

1. To the Church in Ephesus: The Spirit of Righteousness

The Church in Ephesus pursued righteousness to the point of intolerance of anything less.  However, in their pursuit of absolute righteousness, they lost sight of their own unrighteousness and their need for a Savior.  They lacked humility, which comes from the Spirits of Truth and Love—the Spirit of Truth reminds us of our utter depravity compared to the Lord's utter perfection and holiness, and the Spirit of Love leads us to lift others above ourselves; thus the combination of the two results in perfect humility.  It is only through Christ's righteousness that we can be truly righteous, and the Ephesians lost sight of this fact.  So God called the Ephesian Church to humility to return to perfect righteousness.

2. To the Church in Smyrna: The Spirit of Peace

While the Church in Smyrna faces persecution, the Lord comforts them and gives them peace in knowing that He still cares for them and is in control of everything.  In Revelation 2:9 Jesus says, "I know... your poverty—yet you are rich!"  Just like Job, even when they are struck with poverty, they remain the richest people in the world because they claim the blessings of God their Father.  He assures them that there is no reason to be afraid, and just like the Israelites in Exodus 4:31, the Church at Smyrna takes comfort in that the Lord acknowledges their suffering and in His promise of relief and a better day that is to come.

3. To the Church in Pergamum: The Spirit of Truth

Despite persecution, the Church in Pergamum continued to hold fast to the Truth of Jesus Christ.  When lies surrounded them, the Church valued the Truth above all else.  Unfortunately, Satan had managed to deceive them with some of his lies, convincing them that he was telling the truth.  So here Christ calls them out to reject the enemy's lies and return to His Truth, the only Truth.
Another interpretation may suggest that, even though the Church in Pergamum knew the Truth and accepted the enemy's lies as contrary to the Truth, their pursuit of the knowledge of the Truth did not necessarily lead them to act according to the Truth.  In other words, as King Solomon proved, the pursuit of wisdom does not inherently equal the pursuit of righteousness.  Just because you know the Lord's commands does not mean you will automatically obey them, and this was the downfall of the Church in Pergamum.  So Jesus called them to repentance and to add to their pursuit of Truth, the pursuit of righteousness.

4. To the Church in Thyatira: The Spirit of Love

To the Church in Thyatira was given the Spirit of Love, but in their ever increasing desire for love, they lost sight of what true Love is.  They allowed the world's definition of love to overtake God's definition, and they forgot that true Love calls for discipline and gentle correction.  Like the Church in Pergamum, the Church in Thyatire allowed the world to lead them away from the path of righteousness.  While they continued to show God's love, worldly lust had crept in as an addition to their definition of love.  And instead of hating the sin and loving the person, they loved the person and condoned the sin, even to the point of allowing the sin to take a hold on their own lives.  So the Lord called the Church to repentance and to a remembrance of true Godly Love that rebukes sin as a father disciplines a child.
It seems that we in America have fallen in the same way as the Church in Thyatira.  We have become apathetic toward the eternal consequences of sin, and we overlook each other's sins in the name of love.  Yes, we are to accept each other and love each other despite our faults, but we are not to overlook our sins and leave them unconfronted.  We are to encourage each other and lead each other in the pat of righteousness as the Spirit of God directs us.

5. To the Church in Sardis: The Spirit of Wisdom

In Sardis, poor choices were being made, even among the Church.  And even though the Church's poor choices seemed to make them prosper, they were still killing themselves.  So God gave them the Spirit of Wisdom.  Although their earthly wisdom made them prosper, earthly wisdom is nothing in comparison with Godly Wisdom.  Only a chosen few had received the Spirit of true Wisdom, and they would find their place in heaven.  So the Lord called the whole Church to return to the knowledge of true Wisdom that would save them, rather than earthly wisdom that only brings temporary prosperity.

6. To the Church in Philadelphia: The Spirit of Power

In this case power is better interpreted as persistence because even when the Church had little strength, they continued to remain steadfastly devoted to the Lord.  But the Spirit of Power does not only consist of perseverance.  The Church in Philadelphia also demonstrates boldness in standing firm in their beliefs despite the false teachings forced on them by the members of the "synagogue of Satan."  Even with their little strength, the Church was able to stand strong by the Spirit of Power.

7. To the Church in Laodicea: The Spirit of Life

The Church in Laodicea is different from all the others in that they have yet to discover and receive the Spirit of Life that has been given to them.  They are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold; they are lifeless.  The vivacity of Life is not in them, and they remain spiritually dead.  The Spirit of Life, of passion for Christ, has already been given them, but we see in Jesus' statement in Revelation 3:20 ("Here I am!  I stand at the door and knock.  If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with Me") that, although the gift has been given, it has yet to be received.  Only those who open the door to Him, who receive the Spirit of Life, will enter in through the gates of heaven and receive eternal life.

These seven spirits together are the requirements to enter heaven, and it is by the Holy Spirit alone that we receive these gifts.  That's why they are called the sevenfold Spirit.

By looking at the seven Churches, we can see the strengths and weaknesses of today's Church.  In Ephesus we see our perceived self-righteousness and our need for a Savior, yet we also see the Church's desire to pursue righteousness in all forms.  From Smyrna we learn the peace of the martyrs and of the poor and broken, just as we learn the martyr's strength and perseverance from Philadelphia.  Pergamum shows us the willingness of modern-day Christians to twist the truth in order to fit their desires, and also their desire to chase the things of this world despite their knowledge of the Truth.  But it also shows the Church's unshakable grasp on the Truth among those within the Church who do not conform to the ways of the world.  Thyatira, as previously mentioned, shows us the typical American religion of living one's own life without judging others and allowing others to stumble and grope in the dark until they learn for themselves, but it also shows the love that God shared with us and that we are to share with our neighbors.  Sardis demonstrates the wisdom of the world and of the Spirit and shows us the difference, so that we can see that only God's wisdom is supreme and can save us.  And finally, Laodicea, sadly, seems to be America's model Church, leading so many Christians to be lukewarm and to think that they are true Christians when they really aren't.  Like Jesus said to the Church in Sardis, He now calls to us, "You have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead.  Wake up!" (Revelation 3:1).  But we can take hope in knowing that the Spirit will draw us to fullness in Christ, and that we will receive the blessings the Lord promised to all those who overcome.

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Sorry if this was a little confusing.  I just copied my personal notes from my notebook without paying much attention to what I was typing.  If I need to do a better job explaining, let me know.

Also, by no means is this the only explanation of the sevenfold Spirit of God.  This is just what God revealed to me.  I hope this helped someone in some way.  If not... well, it was an interesting, thought-provoking journey, so I enjoyed it.  And it gave me a better understanding of who God is and what He wants for me, so that's what counts, right?

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Matthew 5:3

Well, I meant to type up these notes weeks ago, but that didn't work out too well.  So, finally, here's the first installment in my notes on the Beatitudes.

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"Blessed are the poor in spirit..."  Who are the poor in spirit?  A lot of times when I read this verse, I automatically think of people in poverty.  I don't know why.  Maybe it's just because of the word "poor."  But that's not right.  The verse says "poor in spirit," not just "poor."  The poor aren't the ones who will inherit the kingdom of heaven, although often the poor are also poor in spirit; so indirectly, poverty leads a person to inherit the kingdom of heaven.  But what does "poor in spirit" mean?

As we studied this verse in our Bible study group several weeks ago, a thought came to mind.  I had read something just a few days earlier about a certain passage that makes a clear distinction between the words spirit and Spirit.  The spirit of a person, is just that: the person's spirit, his soul, which he strives to keep pure as he goes through life.  The Spirit, on the other hand, is God's Holy Spirit, the Spirit that resides inside us and works in us to purify us, to make our spirit more like His Spirit.  It's important to notice, then, that Jesus refers to the human spirit in this verse, not the Holy Spirit.  "Blessed are the poor in spirit," not the poor in Spirit.

So with this new understanding of the word spirit, we can look deeper into this verse.  There are two main points that I've found in the phrase "poor in spirit."  The first is this: that the poor in spirit realize the brokenness of mankind, our utter depravity and our need for a Savior.  The poor in spirit realize that they have turned away from God, and that apart from Him they can do nothing; apart from Him, there is no good thing in a man.  They realize how lowly they are, so they turn to God and beg His forgiveness, seeking the sanctification and righteousness that come from His Spirit alone.  They acknowledge the truth that it is only by the blood of Jesus Christ that we can be saved; nothing we do ourselves can earn us entrance into heaven.  So the poor in spirit seek the riches of the Holy Spirit.

And the second comes from that last statement: the poor in spirit are rich in the Spirit.  While a man's will remains, there is no room for God's will to take hold in his life.  God must have the man's entire life, or else He will not have it at all.  So the poor in spirit empties himself of his own human spirit so that he can be filled with the Holy Spirit.  Like Chris Sligh's sings, the poor in spirit say, "Empty me of me so I can be filled with You."  The man dies to himself so that he can live for Christ (Galatians 2:20)—rather, so that Christ can live through him.

So who are the ones who inherit the kingdom of heaven?  Who are the poor in spirit?  Those who acknowledge their depravity and confess their sins, those who abandon themselves and their pride in favor of the Spirit of the Lord, and those who live not for themselves, but for Christ and through Christ.

“We live by faith, not by sight.” ~ 2 Corinthians 5:7

In marching band/drum corps, a lot of what goes on has to do with trust.  You play your part and march your part of the drill and hope that everyone else does their part well.

Today it suddenly struck me that marching band is a good example of what it means to be a Christian.  I had never really thought about it until I went to my high school’s special exhibition for the parents at the end of band camp tonight.  It rained while they were supposed to do their show, so we went into the gym instead, and the band just stood still and played through the music.  Well, just as they were getting ready to play the fight song, lightning struck.  The drum line played the roll off: Dut dah crash!  Dut dah crash!  Drrrrr dut dah crash!  And suddenly the lights were out, right as the band began playing.  Now, this is a high school marching band.  Lowerclassmen make up the majority of the band.  The expectation in this situation—attempting to play the fight song in a pitch black gymnasium—is for the whole band to freak out, minus a few calm people.  Well, to everyone’s amazement, the whole band continued playing.  The band has only had the music for the fight song since Tuesday.  Of course, some of the upperclassmen had it memorized because they played the same part last year, but a lot of people had never seen their part before Tuesday.  Yet, they had enough of it memorized, and they were confident enough that they were able to continue playing along with the drum line keeping the tempo, even though they couldn’t see the drum major.

So it hit me as I was driving home that that situation is just another one of God’s ways of showing that He has everything planned out perfectly, and that everything works according to His will.  Just as the band continued to play, doing their own part to the beat of the drums, trusting that everyone else would do the same, we also live by faith according to the beat of God’s heart, trusting that the rest of the body of Christ will do the same.  And even on the field while marching, the marching band continues to march blind, unable to see anything behind them.  They keep their eyes forward and let the people behind them take care of themselves.  In the same way, we press forward toward the goal Christ has set before us, and we leave our past behind to take care of itself.  We remember the past so that we don’t backtrack and run into it again, but we never look back, always continuing forward.

Being a band geek, I just had to share this.  It’s cool how God uses everything to prove His existence and to show His people how to follow Him.

“For with you is the fountain of life; in Your light we see light.” ~ Psalm 36:9

Today at church Chris, one of the worship leaders, said something about the sun and how we can’t look directly at it because it’s so bright and it would burn our eyes.  And I thought, “If the sun is bright enough to cause eye damage, then how much brighter is the Son’s light?  He is so holy and full of light that we would die if we tried to look directly at Him in all His glory.

Psalm 36:9 is saying that God’s light is what makes all light visible.  In other words, the sun’s light is darkness compared to the Lord, the Light.  If God didn’t exist—if Light didn’t exist—we wouldn’t be able to see the sun or anything we see by its light because God is what makes light visible.

If the sun gives light to the world, and God gives light to the sun and all the stars in the universe, how great must our God be!  The light of the sun is only a glimpse of the incredible glory that belongs to our Lord.

I don't know why I ever found the Old Testament to be boring.

It points to Jesus in so many more ways than we'll ever be able to imagine!

"Take two onyx stones and engrave on them the names of the sons of Israel in the order of their birth—six names on one stone and the remaining six on the other.  Engrave the names of the sons of Israel on the two stones the way a gem cutter engraves a seal.  Then mount the stones in gold filigree settings and fasten them on the shoulder pieces of the ephod as memorial stones for the sons of Israel.  Aaron is to bear the names on his shoulders as a memorial before the Lord." ~ Exodus 28:9-12

Hmm...  Sounds kind of like Isaiah 9:6:

"For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders.  And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

The whole Bible is one big story that points to Jesus.  When you read it that way, it becomes so much more meaningful.

Three in One

What makes a triangle?  Its three points and three sides, right?  But it’s still one triangle.  The Trinity is like that: three identities, but just one God.  And water is similar.  It can come in three states: solid, liquid, or gas.  But no matter what state it’s in, it’s still water, even if it’s ice or vapor.  Whether you’re referring to God the Father, God the Son, or God the Holy Spirit, you’re still talking about God either way.  And what’s also cool about the states of water is that the Father is like vapor because He can’t be seen and He remains in heaven, the Spirit is like liquid water because He fills us and flows through us and around us, and the Son is like ice because He physically manifested Himself on earth as a tangible human being.

The Trinity

I was on Tumblr (my other blog with all the same stuff I have in this one, but much more community based; it's like Facebook-style blogging... or maybe more like MySpace, since it's a world-wide community based on usernames and personal interests) yesterday, and a question came up about the Trinity and who we should pray to: Jesus or God.  The resulting conversation was really interesting, and I learned a lot, so I thought I'd share it.  Enjoy!

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Anonymous:

One question: If Jesus is the son of God, and God is the father, which one do I pray to? Like when I'm saying grace or something, do I praise the son or the father? Is Jesus an intercessor that relays prayers between me and God, or can I pray to him to directly answer my prayers? Forgive me, I know I said "one question" but I'm really trying to understand this concept.
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Bethany (uniting-all-christians):

I’ll try to answer this the best I can…
Matthew 6:9 says to pray to the Father. “This, then, is how you should pray: ‘Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be your name,’”
You don’t necessarily have to say “Father” though… because the Father is also God, Lord, etc.
However, we’re supposed to pray to God in Jesus’ name.
“And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” -John 14:13-14
Jesus does connect you to God. When Jesus died on the cross for your sins, THAT’S what made it possible for you to have a relationship with your Father :)
Hope this helps! If you’re still confused, please come back lol. God bless you<3
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Anon:

Ok I get what you're saying, but still a bit confused. If anything, I'd say that having to pray in Jesus' name takes away from my connection to my ultimate Creator. The way I see it is instead of sending 100% of my praise or prayer to God, I'm giving off a percentage of that to Jesus because I'm associating him with God. I guess my question is more on the lines of who takes credit for everything that happens? Jesus or God? Which ever one does is the one I'm completely submitting to, not both.
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(after a few comments about the Trinity all being the same God, saying that by praying to One, you are praying to all three)

Anon:

Thanks to everyone that replied to my question! I'd still say that there's no way that God can be on the same level as Jesus, even if they existed as a trinity. God existed way before Jesus and He created everything including Jesus, so how can I place both of them on the same level? It doesn't make sense to me. After all Jesus was human, so it confuses me even more to say that I'm allowed to place a human being on the same level as God.
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Me:

John 1:1-2 & 14 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."


Even though Jesus was a Man, He was (and is) also God. God did not create Jesus. He created His body. But Jesus has always been with God, and He has always been God. When you make God and Jesus out to be two different beings, that's when you start running into trouble with asking, "Which one should I pray to?" The thing is that they're not two different beings. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are three in One. Like someone else said earlier, if you pray to One, you pray to all three.


You absolutely can pray to Jesus, because He is God. But if you always associate Jesus with the Man and God with the Spirit in heaven, then you're separating the Trinity. In that case, praying to Jesus would be exactly like praying to a person. Jesus was just a Man. Yes, He was also God, and yes, He was a perfect Man, but He was a Man all the same. Praying to a man is just praying to an idol. We, as Christians, have to get out of the mindset that Jesus is the Man and God is the Spirit, because that's confining them to their locations: God is in heaven and Jesus was on earth. When we understand that Jesus is God and that God is Jesus, then we can pray to Jesus as if we're praying to the whole Trinity. But if you pray to the Man who performed miracles, taught humility, died on the cross, and rose from the grave, you're worshiping an idol. Pray to the Spirit of God that filled His body, because without the Spirit, Jesus would have been an empty shell of a man.

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Anon:

Hi, I'm the anon from the "uniting all Christians" blog. Your answer seemed to make the most sense, so thnx for that. However, if we're not supposed to focus on Jesus as the man, then why are there so many depicted pictures and statues of him, or his body in this case? Isn't that the whole point of the cross? Because Jesus, the man, died on the cross, it became a strong symbol of Christianity?
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Me:

Hey, anon!  Thanks for the question and encouragement.

To tell you the truth, I think the whole thing that started the spread of the cross as a symbol of the sacrifice Jesus made was idolatry.  Not to bring down anyone who wears a cross around their neck, but it is what it is.  Of course, the cross is a great reminder of what Jesus did for us (I have one sitting next to my computer), but we have to be careful that we don’t start worshiping the image rather than the Person—the God—who gave the cross its meaning.  (Basically, if you can’t pray to God without clutching your cross necklace for dear life, then you need to put that cross away for a while.)

People worship in different ways.  For some, it’s painting.  For others, it’s sculpting.  For some, it’s composing.  For others, it’s acting.  Whatever the method of worship is, we usually don’t intend to make those things into idols.  We use diverse forms of worship to remind others of what God did for us, not so that they would worship the art we make.

This is a little bit off topic and will probably just make things harder to understand: Jesus died for our sins on the cross, but He also did much more than that.  He actually descended into hell.  I don’t think anyone will ever understand how that’s possible until we meet Him face to face.  But I’m going to take a whack at reasoning through it.  Jesus was a Man, so He had a soul and a spirit, just like every person.  (The Bible makes several distinctions between the spirit of a man and the Holy Spirit of God.)  The spirit/soul of a person is what goes to heaven or hell (although the Bible also says that we will be given new bodies when Jesus returns).  This may not be biblically correct, but if it helps someone understand, then God can redeem it and use it for good (that same idea applies to what I said earlier about the different forms of worship not being intended to serve as idols): Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit, but He also had His own human spirit.  That human spirit was what descended into hell, because the Holy Spirit, being perfectly holy, could have nothing to do with evil.  After all, God can’t be separated from God.  So Jesus’ spirit—Jesus the Man—went to hell, carrying all the sins of the world.  But because He had lived a perfect life, His human spirit was spotless and served only as a carrier, dropping off our sins in hell.  The cross was the least of His suffering because He paid for our sins in hell, but when all of our sins had been paid for (because, no matter how many sins we commit, all our sins are numbered and there is an end to them), Jesus’ spirit was found to be pure and righteous, deserving to be set free from hell, kind of like holy parole that only God can earn.  So His spirit, having escaped from hell, returned to His body on the earth, and He was carried up into heaven by the Holy Spirit, who had reunited with His perfect human spirit.

Sorry if that made things a thousand times more confusing.  Remember that that’s just my idea of what when on “behind the scenes.”  My point in saying all of that is this: The spiritual side of what Jesus did for us is far more complex than we could ever imagine.  Because nobody has ever fully seen or experienced what goes on in heaven and hell and returned to tell about it, nobody knows exactly what heaven or hell are like.  So we’re left to imagine it, and we have to resort to using things we do know so that we can describe what we don’t know.  That’s why the cross and Jesus the Man have become such huge symbols in Christianity: The cross is the worst form of torture imaginable to man, so we use that to symbolize the infinitely worse torture in hell that Jesus suffered for us.  Nobody has seen the face of God in heaven (we’d die if we did, because He’s so holy), but Colossians 1:15 says that Jesus “is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation,” and Jesus said in John 14:8, “Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father.”  So because artists can’t paint God the Spirit, they have to paint God as Jesus the Man.

Sorry to make an essay out of this, but… In closing, the images and symbols used in Christianity serve not as idols to be worshiped, but as reminders of the One who deserves to be worshiped.  Don’t let the paintings and sculptures of Jesus define the God you worship and confine Him to humanity, but let them remind you that the Almighty God saw it necessary, and even desirable, to become a mortal Man like us and to suffer for every wrong that we ever committed and ever will commit, so that we could spend the rest of eternity with Him.

I hope that helps a little.  Sorry if that was too confusing.  Haha.  If it was, message me again, and I’ll try to do a better job of explaining.
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Anon:

It's me again! Thanks for the long reply, it did clarify some things up for me. So you're saying at the end of the day that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all God, even though they're different entities and are referred to by different names? The way I see it is that there is one God and even though we don't see Him, He makes His presence felt through every intricate detail of life; whether it's through scriptures or messengers or even prophets that can perform miraculous things, it is God's way of making His presence felt. Which is where Jesus comes along; a human being chosen by God to deliver the one true message of monotheism that has always been delivered by all of God's chosen individuals. That makes Jesus and all other chosen ones a mercy to all of mankind, however, we must understand the ultimate source of that mercy, which is God, and worship Him alone. We can praise the Lord for blessing us with individuals like Jesus and Abraham and all the way back to Adam, but we must not confuse who is the All Mighty and who are His blessed servants.

The Trinity really does make monotheism so complex when it really isn't. There is one God and only one God and we owe Him 100% of our worship. No intercessors in this life, no one to speak on our behalf, and definitely no one to remove our own sins. We have a relationship with God, and we can speak to Him whenever we want, and we can repent and ask for forgiveness so our sins can be removed. There isn't anything or anyone in between the creation and their Creator.
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Me:

I'm glad my rambling made sense to you!  But I think part of what I said might have been a little misleading.  I said that Jesus' human spirit was what descended into hell to pay for our sins.  But that doesn't make Jesus any less than God.  Yes, Jesus was a Man that God chose to send to preach salvation by repentance, but if God hadn't been in Him, then He wouldn't have been sent.  In other words, the Person of Jesus only existed because God chose to manifest Himself in His body.  Luke 1:35 says that the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary so that she would give birth to Jesus.  Think of it this way: Humans give birth to other humans, right?  (I would hope so.)  Babies are born by the combination of the genes of the father and the mother; therefore, the baby only exists because the father and mother have come together to form one being.  In the same way, if God were to give birth, His child could be nothing other than God.  To use evolution as an analogy (I don't believe in the theory of evolution, by the way), humans don't give birth to apes that are less than human; so God can't give birth to anything less than God.  So Jesus was born fully God because He was God's Son, and He was fully Man because He was Mary's Son.  Mary's humanity gave Jesus His body, and God's... Godhood? gave Him His Spirit.  As C.S. Lewis puts it, "You don't have a soul.  You are a soul.  You have a body."  Jesus was God in the flesh.



I'm not an actor, but let's pretend I am.  I go backstage and put on my costume, then I come out on stage as the Cowardly Lion.  Am I the Cowardly Lion?  Yes.  But am I really?  No, I'm Michael, just an average person playing the part of the Cowardly Lion.  At the end of the day, I'll take off my costume and resume acting like myself.  Does that make me any less Michael while I'm acting as the Cowardly Lion?  No.  Behind the scenes, God made a body—a costume—for Himself and came to earth in the form of a Man as Jesus.  Was He a Man?  Yes, but only for a time.  In reality, Jesus was and is God, even while He was a Man.  And at the end of His time on earth, He ascended into heaven and shed His earthly body to reveal the fullness of His true identity as God.  He wasn't any less God while He was a Man, but He chose to play the part of a Man while still existing as God.



Yes, Christian monotheism is very complicated, but if we understood everything about God, then He wouldn't be an infinite God, would He?



You're on the right track with your last paragraph, but you have to be careful about the way you say that.  You're right that there is nothing separating us from God... anymore.  Because Christ served as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, our sins are paid for and we are now wholly righteous in God's sight.  But if we have not accepted Jesus as our sacrifice, if we have not laid our hands on the Lamb as the Israelites did (Leviticus 4:24), then our sins have not been passed on to Him, and we are still guilty of all our sins.  We are completely separated from God until we repent and come to Christ.  Yes, we can speak to God directly whenever we want, but only because Jesus cleansed us of our sins and tore the veil between us and God (Mark 15:37-38).  But now, because of Him, the Spirit now lives in us, and we can never be separated from Him again.  As Paul says in Romans 8:38-39, "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neithe the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."


I hope that helps, because none of this was from me.  I never could have come up with any of this stuff, especially the whole thing about birth and acting.  So I have to thank God for telling me what to say.  This actually helped me a lot too.  Haha.

Have a great day/night, and God bless!

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There may be more to come.  We'll just have to wait and see.